「我的阿爸，也就是你的阿祖，那時候除了作苦力以外，還會去拉人力車。」
「那個時候，從台北拉到圓山的價格是四塊半，大概要一個小時，就一條路。有些日本人，很喜歡作弄人；他們說，你要是超過一台(人力)車，我就多給五毛。你阿祖就衝啊衝的，常常到了圓山，可以賺到六塊多。」
「那是什麼樣的路呢？」
「就碎石頭路啊，不像現在是水泥路。」
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